Comments on: Rails: Black Box Testing Complex Models http://www.mendable.com/rails-black-box-testing-complex-models/ Mendable.com - Essential Reading for Ruby on Rails Developers Wed, 28 Jul 2010 07:26:14 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.9.2 hourly 1 By: Thibaud Guillaume-Gentil http://www.mendable.com/rails-black-box-testing-complex-models/comment-page-1/#comment-30 Thibaud Guillaume-Gentil Tue, 14 Jul 2009 21:33:03 +0000 http://www.mendable.com/?p=57#comment-30 Seems interesting, but I think I'm prefer Cucumber and Scenario Outline like Joseph. Seems interesting, but I think I’m prefer Cucumber and Scenario Outline like Joseph.

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]]> By: Jamie Dyer http://www.mendable.com/rails-black-box-testing-complex-models/comment-page-1/#comment-18 Jamie Dyer Mon, 06 Jul 2009 12:34:57 +0000 http://www.mendable.com/?p=57#comment-18 Nice article, you could also use shoulda macros to achieve the same result and do away with all the yml files by using factories. This would produce more rubyish tests IMO. Nice article, you could also use shoulda macros to achieve the same result and do away with all the yml files by using factories. This would produce more rubyish tests IMO.

]]> By: Chris Vincent http://www.mendable.com/rails-black-box-testing-complex-models/comment-page-1/#comment-16 Chris Vincent Sun, 05 Jul 2009 23:40:26 +0000 http://www.mendable.com/?p=57#comment-16 This is a very interesting approach. In the past I have created Procs in my setup method(s) to handle highly repetitious testing, but this would cut the it down even more for extreme cases. Thanks for the insight, I will keep this in mind. This is a very interesting approach. In the past I have created Procs in my setup method(s) to handle highly repetitious testing, but this would cut the it down even more for extreme cases. Thanks for the insight, I will keep this in mind.

]]> By: admin http://www.mendable.com/rails-black-box-testing-complex-models/comment-page-1/#comment-15 admin Sun, 05 Jul 2009 22:35:04 +0000 http://www.mendable.com/?p=57#comment-15 Yes, that would work to some extent, and I have played with Cucumber in the past. Admittedly Cucumber is a useful system, and does solve some problems (I love the readability of the user-stories), however it does introduce it's own set of problems. As a general rule I prefer Ruby Test::Unit, I found Cucumber to be too flexible for me and it turned kind of messy after a while, whereas I really like the structured format of Test::Unit. Secondly, this was a purely Test::Unit project that I implemented this for, I am not in favor of having multiple testing solutions inside one project. Yes, that would work to some extent, and I have played with Cucumber in the past. Admittedly Cucumber is a useful system, and does solve some problems (I love the readability of the user-stories), however it does introduce it’s own set of problems.

As a general rule I prefer Ruby Test::Unit, I found Cucumber to be too flexible for me and it turned kind of messy after a while, whereas I really like the structured format of Test::Unit. Secondly, this was a purely Test::Unit project that I implemented this for, I am not in favor of having multiple testing solutions inside one project.

]]> By: Joseph HALTER http://www.mendable.com/rails-black-box-testing-complex-models/comment-page-1/#comment-14 Joseph HALTER Sun, 05 Jul 2009 15:32:41 +0000 http://www.mendable.com/?p=57#comment-14 Or try cucumber and its wonderfully handy "Scenario outlines", I'm sure you'll never go back ;) Or try cucumber and its wonderfully handy “Scenario outlines”, I’m sure you’ll never go back ;)

]]> By: atmos http://www.mendable.com/rails-black-box-testing-complex-models/comment-page-1/#comment-13 atmos Sun, 05 Jul 2009 00:00:52 +0000 http://www.mendable.com/?p=57#comment-13 Yo, great article! I think you'd really like cucumber, have you played with that at all? It addressed a lot of these concerns and can be used to test models as well. Yo, great article! I think you’d really like cucumber, have you played with that at all? It addressed a lot of these concerns and can be used to test models as well.

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